Arsene Wenger has played down his opportunity to make history in Saturday's FA Cup final with Aston Villa, even though he has been watching England's showpiece occasion for 60 years.
Should Arsenal win at Wembley, they can reach a record 12 FA Cup wins. And Wenger himself can reach six, which would take club and manager beyond Manchester United and Sir Alex Ferguson.
"Honestly I don't look at it in a personal way," Wenger told reporters "Maybe I will if we win but at the moment I just look. I heard you so much telling me that we don't win anything that I'm quite surprised I am suddenly on the other side of it."
Last year's 3-2 final victory over Hull City ended a nine-year trophy drought for Wenger's Arsenal. Saturday gives him the opportunity to match the all-time record of six, achieved by George Ramsey when winning the 1920 final with Aston Villa.
"It's quite strange because I have played six finals and the one we deserved to win most was the one we lost," said Wenger referring to 2001's final, played at Cardiff's Millennium's Stadium. "It was against Liverpool when [defender Stephane] Henchoz saved the ball in the first minute with his hand."
Wenger said he has always taken the FA Cup seriously, being aware of its importance long before he came to Arsenal in 1996.
"For me it's a massive achievement and a massive trophy," he said. "I remember when I was a kid I watched the FA Cup final in my village. We had to bring 100 francs to watch the television.
"Everybody in the village could watch the television. They had no television. That was in 55, 56, there was no television. The first television I got at home was when I was 15. Before that we had no television at home."
"I remember [England World Cup-winning and West Ham captain] Bobby Moore," said Wenger, when asked for his leading FA Cup memory from his childhood.
"But I don't remember the teams, but I remember the white ball. Because we played on fields, what was amazing for me was to see the pitch at Wembley, the grass, it was unusual for us to see a pitch of that quality. And the ball rolling. We were used to seeing the ball bouncing over the pitch."
Wenger won his first final in 1998 to complete a domestic double. "It was really special as I had a tough decisions to make on the day as I had [Nicolas] Anelka playing and [then-record goalscorer Ian] Wright on the bench."
He will face similarly big decisions this Saturday.
"You have to make your decisions and [the] whole squad has to focus on doing it as most of the time the heroes are the guys who come on," said Wenger, who was given a selection headache by the scoring form of Theo Walcott and Jack Wilshere last week against West Brom.
"I remember last year when we went on and I brought on [Tomas] Rosicky and Wilshere. "And after I spoke with the guys and they told me when they saw them coming on, we knew that [Hull] didn't have a chance any more. Most of the time it is a squad achievement, a cup final."